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Saisei wrote:Yup I got it too but I had completely forgot about it.
Could be interesting in my campaign potentially, but i plan on having Ferelden consumed by the blight and the darkspawn essentially having their own country to build power from
Outside of issueing an official note of protest? I'd highly doubt it.Ghostdanser wrote:Would the Grey Wardens get involved?
Lynata wrote:Either way, it'd still have a very destabilizing effect, and it is doubtful if the Tevinter Chantry could so easily push the Andrasteans aside, as I don't see them giving up on the hearts and minds of people easily. The Grey Wardens would require much more public support, but the Chantry is closer to the people - and with that, their armies.
Lynata wrote:The case of Warden-Commander Sophia Arlessa Dryden is a salutory lesson of what happens when the Grey Wardens become active in politics too much.
Aye, I'm thinking the same - I wasn't suggesting that Tevinter would actually lend military aid (sorry if I've been too ambiguous there), more that Thedas' "Anti-Pope" would try to dispell any attempts of the Andrasteans to render the Grey Wardens enemies of the faith itself rather than "just" political opponents. The Tevinter Chantry might even send missionaries over the border to convert the people (appeasing/swaying the population whilst simultaneously expanding their own influence), but as I said that might not work as well as they'd hope or might even backfire into an all-out civil war.Ghostdanser wrote:And the fact that Tevinter has it's own problems doesn't help matters. While the Tevinter Chantry may sympathize with an Orzammar Circle, the reality is Tevinter as a country is still at war with the Qunari. In the end I suspect that the Tevinter Chantry would probably do little more than protest vocally.
That's a good point, actually - though in this case we'd be talking rogue elements, not "Grey Wardens" per se. And without official backing, the numbers of combatants participating in the conflict would be even smaller than if the Order as a whole would go to war.Ghostdanser wrote:The Grey Wardens might publicly state they are remaining neutral, however it is quite possible that some Grey Wardens, particularly those that know they have little time left in the world, might decide to "defy" the "official position" of the Grey Wardens and "resign" to fight with the Dwarves. While the Grey Wardens couldn't bring their full forces to bear, at least some veterans would probably assist the Dwarves...it is the kind of thing I expect Oghren would do. This might give the Grey Wardens as a whole plausible deniability and avoid the Chantry from seeking too harsh of a retribution later.
A disturbing thought.Ghostdanser wrote:First Enchanter Flemeth
Lynata wrote:Aye, I'm thinking the same - I wasn't suggesting that Tevinter would actually lend military aid (sorry if I've been too ambiguous there), more that Thedas' "Anti-Pope" would try to dispell any attempts of the Andrasteans to render the Grey Wardens enemies of the faith itself rather than "just" political opponents.
Lynata wrote:Still, the idea of some sort of "Grey Warden Robin Hood" (in the vein of a single "fallen" Warden leading a motley band of commoners in guerilla attacks against the crusaders - or would they be called marchers? ) siding with the Dwarves is ... interesting.
Allensh wrote:I am thinking that not all of the events in the epilogue of DA:O occur between that game and DA 2. Some, I think, occur in the future.
And if you read Dragon Age Asunder you'll discover why the Chantry probably won't be bothering the dwarves anytime soon....
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